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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2008, 10:41:30 PM »

I stated clearly that EQII used to have the same issues o' lightin in character creation in tha 'Early Days' article... did yer miss that?  =)
They finally changed offa tha durn boat.

Oi am verra much lookin forward ta tryin tha PvP in AoC.
Did ye write this afore or after readin' todae's comic an' commentary?
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« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2008, 11:14:20 PM »

Brasse, you might really want to look in to upgrading to an 8800GT Card. Smiley

I have yet to have any game related issues....If the games crashes, it's because the entire server went down ( only once so far ) and it has been running smoothly for the past week so far.

As an example, in EQ2, top setting, 15-50fps, depending on the zone (QH, BBM, and Neriak being the worst).  In AoC, launch night it bottomed out at 20fps in Tortage, most of the time it is rolling a long at 40 fps.


But you did find a spiffy hat. Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2008, 02:35:31 AM »

I stated clearly that EQII used to have the same issues o' lightin in character creation in tha 'Early Days' article... did yer miss that?  =)
They finally changed offa tha durn boat.

Oi am verra much lookin forward ta tryin tha PvP in AoC.
Did ye write this afore or after readin' todae's comic an' commentary?
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In all honesty, it was before...  Embarrassed

I've a nearly 2-year old running around the house, so I usually start my personal things (like posting) much, much earlier than I actually get to finish them...

Still, have the EQ2 character models actually changed? The last I tried, you either got the plastic mannequin or the anime character, and I was less than impressed. Also, creating a character in AoC takes me 3 minutes, tops, provided I have the name ready. I'm a roleplayer, so I have naming issues on a regular basis, and I could take two hours to create a Nethack character if coming up with a name was included in the process...

Some people have compared AoC character creation to that of Oblivion, which is the most overhyped game ever, in my opinion. That one had sliders, and tweaking those sliders to get character looks of your liking could easily take up half an hour, or more. In Conan, it's easy to finish fast, because the sliders don't have such a drastic effect, and this is because you choose the starting expression which you start your tweaking from. And really, there are only five skintones and haircolors each for each of the three races. Getting the hang of those didn't take long at all for me. Back on the day with EQ2, however, literally took me the first day I "played" just to create a character while I was trying to figure out how the sliders affected my character's looks. And even after that one day, I only came to a realization that no matter how much I pulled the sliders on my elfink, he was going to look plastic, anyway. It came to a point that I had to pick the alternate models, the anime ones, to be able to even look at the screen while I was playing. I am not a big fan of the "huge eyes, small mouth, no chin"-genre, btw.

All these are just my opinions, of course.

But the thing I like most about AoC is the lack of autoattacks. I actually get to play my own character, yay! I mean, in LotRO, I was looking forward to a combat system alike that of DDO, and I was vastly disappointed when I learned it wasn't happening. In EQ2 on a RP-PvP server I was very, very disappointed with the autofacing in PvP. If I, as a swashbuckler, have attacks that are most effective when attacking your opponents rear, I expect to be able to use a knockdown attack and be able to get behind my opponent. Don't know if that has changed since, but the PvP in EQ2 was a huge disappointment for me mainly because of that detail.

Soloability is a concern for me as well. Because of the aforementioned nearly 2-year old, I find myself uncertain about committing myself to a group. Back in WoW and LotRO, I could solo a whole lot. In EQ2, I found myself starting new characters after the previous one had reached lvl 20 all too often. Personally, I see EQ2 beating AoC in two features out of many, and the first is the size of playing areas. I don't care how long I have to hike, as long as there's something to see, and AoC is a bit disappointing in that sense. Not nearly as disappointing as LotRO, but still. The second is the UI. In Conan, it's manageable enough, but it still sucks. In EQ2 it's very good.

But, anyway, I don't know how I could elaborate my views further right now, for those few who might be interested. So cheers, everyone.
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2008, 03:40:56 AM »

I was gonna write a review of Pirates of the Caribbean.  Yes, Disney.  But still, it's a free download and has a free-to-play mode.

I don't dare write it, love.  Nobody wants to hear it.  The game has ship combat, a rather unique method of tracking sword-play, ship-combat, pistol experience, and crewing.  But let's face it, nobody fell in love in Pirates of the Caribbean unless you're maybe 14 and relatively naive.

*I* think Brasse fell in love in eq2 OR EQ1 and that's great, but all our other mileage may vary.  I grant that EQ2 is currently the best game out there for SO MANY things.  But, i think online games have gone beyond their "technical" ability to give us good graphics and a storyline we can immerse ourselves in.

A good game now has to deliver superior ways for us to talk to each other and interrelate.  That's what we want to do, whether it's craving a high-five for a good hit, or just wanting to hang out with friends.  So, the chat interface becomes important.  Ways to find a group or see your friends online are key.  For better or worse, these games (or youtube, etc.) ARE how we relate, these days.

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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2008, 05:45:40 AM »

I'm quite enjoying AOC.  I love quests I haven't done before, in just about any game... WOW was the exception, for the most part... (please note I never got a character over level 15, and that was in beta).  I don't the mind the "questing for dummies" mini-map.  I DO mind the constant zoning.  Some of the zones are ONE ROOM, for goodness sake!  I'm of two minds about the cut scenes.  Are there cut scenes for EVERY quest after Tortage?  I think the cut scenes are neat for special encounters (the drunken sea captain, the hunky blacksmith freeing you from your shackles, Valeria the first time you meet her), but find myself clicking through the run-of-the-mill "thanks a million, here's your 2 copper" scenes.  I know you can skip them, but like the 5-year-old I was sitting in my parents' car at 11:00 PM at the drive-in, I don't want to miss anything (it was usually pizza, and I got some and my weaker siblings did without).

I'm getting the hang of the combat and starting to be able to plan which combo to use based on my main opponent's shield usage -- a notable achievement for me Wink  I'm learning to use walls and obstacles to my advantage.  Quite fun, actually.  I just know that at the end there are going to be more combos than I can deal with! Wink (Not that I've ever seen the end game in any game... I am easily distracted.)  So far there's nothing to distract me in AOC.  No crafting until 40. You can't explore, much.  So I'm leveling quite quickly for me.   

Esri's level 19 in AOC and hoping to shake the dust of Tortage off her feet sometime before lunch. But I want a cool hat!!!!  What quest is that from?  Cool
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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2008, 06:47:06 AM »

Well, I spent all day Saturday tweaking and tweaking and realoding video drivers and cleaning driver uninstalls and reinstalling again.  I have a GeForce 7800 GT which is above the recommended minimum requirements, plus the fact that they are teaming with NVIDIA to make sure it runs best on their cards, so I would have thought that I could get by with a few driver updates and tweaks and get cracking on my shiny new game I bought.  Not happening.  I think I will shelve it for a week and come back and see what fixes they have put in. 

Very frustrated with a lost Saturday.
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2008, 07:03:00 AM »

NO! Atherin!  Sad

Are you just not able to get in-game or is it the framerate?

I didn't have any problems, other than low framerate, which could be accurately traced back to the video card (6900) in beta, but I used some "found money" to upgrade to an 8800GTS before I started retail.  Other than the patch on Friday breaking Direct3D, I haven't had any video issues and the game runs great on high.
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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2008, 08:39:47 AM »

I keep crashing out.  Sometimes it's just as I load into the world.  Sometimes it's 1 minute in.  Some combination of graphics that are trying to load is crashing me.  I even deleted the shader.cache file like some folks suggested.  That gets me in for a minute and then I am back out.  I can't even get far enough to get the blacksmith to break my slave chains.  Although I am up to lvl 6 even in the midst of all that LOL.

I keep throwing /tells at you by the way.  You never answer.  They should have a /tell "beep" like they did in SWG.
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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2008, 12:53:42 PM »

The chat is awful.  Maybe I'll change the /tells to purple or something...  I keep crashing today. No BSOD, just the game stops responding and then I lose connection and I have to reboot to get back in.  Gives me a "client wrong version" error every time. 

Brasse -- I'm here to tell you the zones get bigger, but no more navigable after you leave Tortage.  Don't know if it's an improvement yet Wink
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2008, 05:13:55 AM »

I just tried checking out AOC forum, and... is it just me or is it really impossible to see forum unless you are registered? If it is true, then my first thought is 'What are they trying to hide?'. If it's just me... anyone got a link to it?
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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2008, 06:27:49 AM »

Yeah, you have to have a key registered I think.

Esri, maybe I am overheating.  You think I should slap one of these bad boys on there?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186016

Or give up and get a new card.  I hate that option Cheesy
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2008, 07:04:37 AM »

You could try it.  I got a new card because my 6900 was too slow (I've wanted a new one for awhile and it was "found money" -- an award I got for ramrodding Exchange migration).  I got an 8800GTS with 640MB for $225 -- there's a $30 mail-in rebate now so it's $195:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130327.  The only downside is it takes up two slots (overhangs the slot where my TV tuner card was).

I love it. Runs AOC just fine (I'm assuming it has nothing to do with my losing connection all day yesterday) and EQ2 is twice as gorgeous! (And I don't lag in QH or Neriak.) Haven't checked out Vanguard yet.

I saw you online when I logged in after a disconnect yesterday. I changed my tell color in the hopes I would see it if it pops up. But you must have already been in the process of crashing because you disappeared almost immediately.

Esri made level 20 in 17 hours, 45 minutes, which is two hours longer than my last character in EQ2.  That was after having done that zone with one other character a year or so before (EQ2).  I'm normally an abysmally slow leveler, so take from that what you will.

The zones after 20 are much larger than the Tortage zones and varied, as well.  I spent awhile in Cimmeria, but then went to Acquilonia. Old Tarantia is gorgeous and I'm enjoying the leveling in the Wild Lands.  You can actually cross the landscape there (mostly).  Well, I have to save a village from a demon. Wink

Good luck, Ath!
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2008, 07:27:39 AM »

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I saw you online when I logged in after a disconnect yesterday. I changed my tell color in the hopes I would see it if it pops up. But you must have already been in the process of crashing because you disappeared almost immediately.

Correct!  I can run around a bit and then I crash.  I have a temperature monitor now and it's not going much above 65C-75C.  So, not a temp problem.  Could be some kind of graphics memory LEEK.  I will keep looking at the tech forums and see if anything pops up.  Yes, I redid drivers and DX9 and turned off VSync and set all the settings to LOW and turned off shadows etc... etc...  Don't know what else to do until I hear something from folks with more insight than myself on these HOODOO (tm)* issues.




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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2008, 08:43:09 AM »

     If most of you are having trouble with your system crashing you might have to upgrade your video card due to overheating.  I have talked with many people in game about them having problems with system crashes all due to there video cards not be able to render and with the amount of people being in one zone.  I run with a 7950gt, 2.4ghz duo core AMD, and 4gb of ram.  I have yet to have any issues with the game and I am pretty grateful.  But, most of the people that run below 7900 cards tend to have problems.  There is a problem with overheating and also if you just have the recommended 2gb ram you could have memory issues as well for certain zones.  I'll admit that the system requirments for this game are very unforgiving.  But it really isn't an unobtainable system requirment.  My best friend is trying to get him a system built for playing AoC on, I went on Newegg and priced him out an AMD gaming rig for under $550 this is without a monitor but when you think of it that is actually just as cheap as a new Playstation 3 with a game and extra controller Cheesy

     In conclusion, if you are having problems with running the game at recommended specs you just might have to get you an upgrade.  I know everyone is going to say well I'm not going to upgrade just to play a game, but when you look at it, all gamers no matter if they play consoles or on a computer have to upgrade eventually to play all the great next gen stuff Wink
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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2008, 09:35:03 AM »

With all due respect, I cannot disagree more with the assertion that if your machine meets the advertised minimum system requirements of the game, and the game still crashes (at the appropriate game settings) then you need to upgrade your system.  Frankly, that is one of the most absurd things I have seen in a long time.  The game developer needs to make the game work within the specs they said the game would work, or change the specs and suffer the financial loss that no doubt will be a result.  Putting the onus on the consumer in this instance is well, preposterous.

Please note this is not an attack on the system reqs for the game, nor am I complaining that the game does not work for me (never tried it, have no real interest in trying it since I was never much on the Conan universe).
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